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Great thanks, I realize I may never know.  I do appreciate your help.  As far as the Dutch Reformed Church records, they are 3 other books I found written by Adolph Van der Velde whose ancestors were also in that area and intermarried with members of that church, 2 other books specifically about his family and one about the Walloon community in Hanau.  I checked those to see if any of my family showed up there.  No luck. You mentioned there was a lot going on in the Mannheim area between 1600-1650.  Are there any good books you can point me to that might give me an idea? Once again, thanks for checking.

Need to have a placeholder as I research my Volga Germans. These publication would be of use. - Mai, Brent Alan. 1798 Census of the German Colonies along the Volga: Economy, Population, and Agriculture (Lincoln, NE: American Historical Society of Germans from Russia, 1999): St07, St52. - Pleve, Igor. Einwanderung in das Wolgagebiet, 1764-1767 Band 4 (Göttingen: Göttinger Arbeitskreis, 2008): 214. - Pleve, Igor. Lists of Colonists to Russia in 1766: Reports by Ivan Kulberg (Saratov: Saratov State Technical University, 2010): #4143.

After some more looking I have determined his family came from Stahl am Tarlyk, currently Stepnoye Russia.  This is in the Volga region, but I would like to begin to narrow this a bit.

Not sure about the label Dutch reformed.  These groups of people left France and Belgium to evade the french catholic forces.  Many settled near Heidelberg and the surrounding areas, some stayed in Belgium or the Netherlands, others were in Switzerland.  The church records are spotty in most places. I have even found notes that a certain book was LOST when French forces made encampments in the area.  I will continue to pluck around and have asked some German research friends, but yes, this may not produce additional details.     I plan to go to Germany in the near future and will be in that area, so may keep some notes and work with the archive to see if there is anything else of interest.

Thank you so much for your help.  I had begun to think that I was just missing them due to my not speaking/reading the languages.   I did think it interesting that the Dutch Reformed Church record books from the Frankenthal / Mannheim area as transcribed by Adolph van der Velder were apparently available when his books were written.  I don’t understand why that ‘Reformed’ denomination would not have been attacked as well as the French Reformed Church.