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Hello Ronald, I just came accross your site today and i was wondering if the Mannheim French Reformed Church was the same then Huguenot French Church of Mannheim. Actually, i was looking for the document showing Pierre Neau, a Huguenot, born about 1635 in Poitou, France married Margaret DuMont on 24 Jul 1660 at the Huguenot French Church of Mannheim, Germany. I have been reading about this information for so many years but never saw the text itself. Thanks for any information you might be able to give to me. Florence

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I guess I need to get back to this film and see if the Dünschmann, Kohl/Kuhl, Käß families have any associations here.

Seems I will also need to look through the Anhausen CB as Johann Phillip may have records there.

I am looking for the towns of Rückeroth and Langenbaum. It seems they will be within the Selters or Ransbach church regions of Westerwald. Using the Map Guide to German Church Parishes I will look in Rückeroth CB and then in Dreifelden which is south of Altstadt, but I seem to recall Langenbaum was seen in the records of Altstadt when I read through it earlier. Langenbaumis really a small area east of Steinebach an der Wied.

Case cemetery in Flemington? Cole in Readington? Holland Presbyterian in Holland Township, old portion? Kuhl in Raritan Musconetcong Valley Presb. Servis in Ringoes or East Amwell?

Through Image 30 Image 31 is not bereavement, it is baptisms beginning in March 1661. So in summary, this book is Marriages and then Baptisms beginning in 1661.

Up to image 13, year 1686

Zentralarchiv der Evang. Kirche > Dekanat Marienberg > Altstadt > Taufregister 1661-1717, Trauregister 1661-1717 https://www.archion.de/de/browse/?no_cache=1&path=40821-647220-752023&cHash=914a9f56f600cc44fdca9f7d072a6760 I am returning to the original records and will be reading each entry from front to back. All entries in which I find the Dünschmann name will be transcribed into my tree using this as the source. Subsequent posts will detail my progress through the book and any lingering questions from the reading. A few to notice. Archion first image is image 5, but this is not the first page of the book, Archion image 4 seems to be missing. When I review LDS film 1340472 this first page is displayed in the film and thankfully has a Dünschmann record located near the top of the page!

I have continued to look at these dates and am convinced they chose the Gregorian calendar very early. It is possible that the Gregorian calendar was adopted by the Catholics and the area had both churches so they moved ahead as well,

Ancestors of Johan Peter Dünschmann Generation 1 1. Johan Peter Dünschmann, son of Johann Peter Dünschmann and Anna Gertraud Pfeiffer, was born in Mar 1719 in Gehlert, Westerwaldkreis, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany. He died in 1806 in Sussex County, New Jersey, USA. He married UNK UNK. She was born about 1723. Notes for Johan Peter Dünschmann: BAPTISM: Peter Tunschmann, Anna Gertrud von Geyleroth, 26 Mar 1719 Witnesses: Johann Peter Franz von Geyleroth Johannes Peter Tunschmann von Wied Peter Muller's Tochter von Oberhetteroth, Else Maria Generation 2 2. Johann Peter Dünschmann, son of Matthias Dünschmann and Maria Catharina Müller, was born in Apr 1682 in Gehlert, Westerwaldkreis, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany. He married Anna Gertraud Pfeiffer on 13 Jul 1707 in Altstadt, Westerwaldkreis, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany. 3. Anna Gertraud Pfeiffer, daughter of Peter Pfeiffer and Gertraudt Göffgen, was born in Jan 1677 in Alpenrod, Westerwaldkreis, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany. Notes for Johann Peter Dünschmann:h BAPTISM: Matheiss Dunschman, Maria Catharina von Gehlert, Misericordai = 30 Apr 1682 Witnesses: Peter Muller von Oberhattert uft Croppached Seiten Johann Thomas, Christian Frantz's von Gehlert noch lediger sohn Trien, Johann Becher's uff der Munster Hoff zu Gehlert hausfrau Anna Gertraud Pfeiffer and Johann Peter Dünschmann had the following children: i. Johan Antonius Dünschmann was born in Aug 1708 in Gehlert, Westerwaldkreis, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany (Johann Tonges at wedding). He married Anna Catharina UNK on 15 Jan 1732 in Altstadt, Westerwaldkreis, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany. She was born before 1710 in Westerwaldkreis, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany. Notes for Johan Antonius Dünschmann: BAPTISM: Johan Petter Dunschmann von Gehleroth, 2 Sep 1708 Witnesses: Thonges Amos, Johan Thomas Amos, Johan Jacob's noch lediger sohn Anna Christina Dunschmannin XX aus Geyleroth Das Kind nahme ist Johannes Anthonis ii. Maria Christina Dünschmann was born about 1711 in Westerwaldkreis, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany. iii. Anna Juliana Dünschmann was born in Mar 1713 in Westerwaldkreis, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany (Anna Catharina, Johanetta Maria). Notes for Anna Juliana Dünschmann: BAPTISM: Johan Petter Tunschmann von Geyleroth, 12 Mar 1713 Witnesses: Johannes Bockling Anna Catharina Tunschmannin Johanette Maria XX XX aus XXX Hausfrau iv. Johan Michael Dünschmann was born in 1717 in Westerwaldkreis, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany.

I need to put together a concise Chronology of this segment of the family tree. As I stated years ago the person identified in the Westerwald to America is incorrect. Those listed in this book, Johann Peder Dünschmann and Johann Thiess Dünschmann, did not leave Germany. They continue to be referenced in the church records at their children's baptisms, grandchildren's baptisms, they are even listed as dead and buried there. Further, the entry of Gielenroth in the Alstadt church book is also incorrect. At his time the pastor often wrote the town of Gehlert in a long form which is being confused with Gielenroth. Gielenroth is in another church (Almersbach) and parish region and would not be listed in the Alstadt churchbook without further clarification as to the parish location, which is NEVER given in the church book.

I have drawn another possible reason that the Dünschmann line ended up in Hachenburg. There was a marriage and the semi-royal couple lived near Nister. This seems to be the first location where a Dünshcmann was recorded as living. Next, in the coming years a Dünschmann person became the Mayor of Hachenburg, not exactly a easy leap through caste structures unless he was in some favorable position prior.

Such an amazing site really. I just love spending time in their website and looking through the church records that they have posted. Not everything is posted, but does that really ever happen anyway?

This is my mother. She passed last year and I am now starting to get back into my research.

Thank David. Where are you looking? Have you tried Archion or any local places in Germany?

Enjoyed your writings. I'm searching for an ancestor who was born 10 May 1800 in/near Koblenz. Seems to be a difficult period to find Evangelish records! Envy you traveling there!

The ballparks have very limited flavor?

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Great thanks, I realize I may never know. I do appreciate your help. As far as the Dutch Reformed Church records, they are 3 other books I found written by Adolph Van der Velde whose ancestors were also in that area and intermarried with members of that church, 2 other books specifically about his family and one about the Walloon community in Hanau. I checked those to see if any of my family showed up there. No luck. You mentioned there was a lot going on in the Mannheim area between 1600-1650. Are there any good books you can point me to that might give me an idea? Once again, thanks for checking.

After some more looking I have determined his family came from Stahl am Tarlyk, currently Stepnoye Russia. This is in the Volga region, but I would like to begin to narrow this a bit.

Not sure about the label Dutch reformed. These groups of people left France and Belgium to evade the french catholic forces. Many settled near Heidelberg and the surrounding areas, some stayed in Belgium or the Netherlands, others were in Switzerland. The church records are spotty in most places. I have even found notes that a certain book was LOST when French forces made encampments in the area. I will continue to pluck around and have asked some German research friends, but yes, this may not produce additional details. I plan to go to Germany in the near future and will be in that area, so may keep some notes and work with the archive to see if there is anything else of interest.

Thank you so much for your help. I had begun to think that I was just missing them due to my not speaking/reading the languages. I did think it interesting that the Dutch Reformed Church record books from the Frankenthal / Mannheim area as transcribed by Adolph van der Velder were apparently available when his books were written. I don’t understand why that ‘Reformed’ denomination would not have been attacked as well as the French Reformed Church.